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Sailing vs Motoring

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    Hi Bill, I don't think you are alone, this has come up a few times before in slightly different shapes and forms but it is essentially the same ask and feature. Saillogger needs to have a mechanism to capture engine information and statistics, whether the engine(s) is/are on or off, capturing engine hours, temperatures when needed etc. Sailboaters and motorboaters differ a bit in the types of information to collect and the level of detail but the ultimate ask is the same.

    We do agree this will be a cool addition and we want to get to it. One practical handicap is that we don't have an engine sensor on our current boat and we are obsessive about testing and using features ourselves before releasing them. But this will change in the coming months and we expect to have hand-on experience with some of these sensors and information.

    So net-net, yes this will be a very useful feature and it will come, though will not probably be immediate. There are a few features we have in mind that are ahead of this. Thank you for the thoughtful suggestion, appreciate it as always!

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    @admin Hi, I wanted to offer my services as a beta tester for experimental plugins that would test this new feature. I installed the sensor that displays RPM, pressure, and other engine information on SK, and I also added it to Saillogger as data to monitor, and it works (obviously). If you'd like to test this new feature on me, I'm available. Thanks.

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      Hey there - I have several analog to NMEA 2000 senders/products and would be happy to ship you guys one for testing if you'd like one! I also would love to see this feature.

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        I second @MacJL
        There is already a nice autostate plugin.
        No need to reinvent the wheel.

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            Hi @billknny, @MacJL , @Andrea , @stevemitchell , @Voodoo ! You asked, we delivered. We’ve just released native support for engine sensors. They’re now logged automatically, along with statistics for your sailing and motoring time. Check out the announcement here: https://community.saillogger.com/topic/142/saillogger-plugin-5-x-native-engine-logging

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              Love your work, Ilker and the entire Saillogger team!!

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                Dear Sailloger team
                Thanks for implementing the support for NMEA engine monitoring.
                In my boat I have old yanmars and won’t install analog to NMEA sensors due to the cost and difficulty of cabling 2 engines far from the NMEA backbone
                Nevertheless I do have a monitoring of engine alternators current and based on ‘‘tis use auto state plugin to detect “motoring” status
                Can sailloger monitor motoring status and log it in the trip data pus motoring hours?

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                  The easiest, cheapest way to import engine data into a NMEA 2000 network is with a Veratron Oceanlink tachometer. It accepts analog feeds for tachometer, temperature, oil pressure, and outputs them (plus engine hours) to the nmea 2000 network. A bit of shopping and it can be found for less than $300, and only a bit of rewiring of the sensors is needed.

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                    @billknny @admin I'm not sure the Saillogger community is the place to promote third party products.
                    If so, it still takes this discussion sideways from the original topic and a new post would be beneficial to all.
                    Btw, there is so many ways to do this with lot's of pros and cons .. and there is many other products from VDO, Ocean Systems, Marathon, Yacht Devices, even Raymarine and many others.

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                      @billknny @admin I'm not sure the Saillogger community is the place to promote third party products.
                      If so, it still takes this discussion sideways from the original topic and a new post would be beneficial to all.
                      Btw, there is so many ways to do this with lot's of pros and cons .. and there is many other products from VDO, Ocean Systems, Marathon, Yacht Devices, even Raymarine and many others.

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                      @Voodoo I don't really need to integrate my 2 old yanmar 4jh4 with the nav system.
                      Im happy with old fashioned analogue control panels, no need to monitor Bar and Celsius in NMEA or sailllogger. All I would like to achieve is engine status monitoring (running/not running) for trip's logs and statistic.
                      In my current setup I already have a Victron shunt for engines' alternators (separate 24v 110A alternators) that tiggers "motoring" path in SignalK when minimum 1 engine is running (and alternator charging the house batteries. I can also try using digital inputs of Cerbo to get on/off status control of each engine (we are a catamaran).

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