Display other N2K data in Sail Logger?
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I love sail logger but I’m still looking for one single place where I can monitor all of the information that is important to me.
I love the way that sail logger automatically starts and stops tracking, etc. and I really like the clean design so to me it would be my preferred choice of a single view into the systems on my boat. The fact that it is so easily accessible off the boat also is a big value.
I use the Saillogger often, but I also have to log in to my VRM portal to read things like the temperatures for my 3 Ruuvi sensors. I then need to log into the app of my Siren 3 pro in order to see the battery voltage of my three banks – house, starter and thruster.
All of this information is on the NMEA network onboard, but I have to use three different tools to access it. Would it be possible to add the ability to read any data from the NMEA bus and display it in Sail logger?
I’m not sure of the difficulty or feasibility of doing such a thing, but since it’s all on the network it seems like it should be possible??
Thanks!
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Thank you for the recommendation. This is a good and interesting use-case indeed. It is certainly doable but the real challenge here is to do this through an intuitive user interface.
We are thinking of enhancing the monitoring page to modify/add new sources but making the UI and plugin integration is non-trivial.
We will keep thinking about this, we agree this would be a good and important enhancement to Saillogger.
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This would be a -great- enhancement for me as well. I would love to be able to grab additional information off of the N2K network. I'm probably an outside use case in that I am using SailLogger on a powerboat, so I would enjoy being able to log more powerboat related items such as: engine hours, fuel tank levels, etc. Getting a clean UI can be a challenge; as a stop gap would it be possible to open the backend so a more "advanced user" who is more familiar with databases and programming in general could add their own customer N2K fields that are saved into the database. That way we could have a single go to single data source that houses all of the data available on our vessels. Thanks a ton for the great tool!
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@MacJL Hopefully we will release the initial feature by then so you can use it.
Just to set the right expectations though, this will allow custom data in real-time monitoring and tracking page and monitoring history. In the initial release they won't be attached to logs automatically, meaning you can monitor your tanks, additional batteries etc but they won't be added to your trip logs. That capability will also come but will be a subsequent release, later.
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Exciting News for Early Testers! Hello, everyone! We're thrilled to announce the launch of the initial version of our new capability for custom monitoring to early testers. Given the complexity of this new functionality, we're rolling it out on a smaller scale for now. This means two things: it's not broadly announced yet, and yes, encountering some bugs is part of the adventure!
Here's What's New:When you navigate to the Monitoring & Tracking Tab in your settings, you'll find a new option at the bottom:
Add Monitoring Section.What to Expect:
- Custom Monitoring Configurations: Organize your additional monitoring needs into sections. Each section can represent a different unit of measurement (length in feet/meters, temperature Celsius/Fahrenheit, nautical miles, percentages etc.).
- Flexibility: Add multiple data sources to each section. There's no limit to how many sections you can create, offering unparalleled customization. For instance, create a "Tanks" section for monitoring fresh water, fuel, and waste levels, or a section dedicated to battery voltages for house and starter batteries.
This update is designed to provide you with ultimate flexibility in monitoring custom NMEA data from your boat, tailored to your specific needs.
To Get Started:
Ensure your system is equipped with plugin version 3.0.0 or newer to take full advantage of this feature.Visualize the Possibilities:
Dive into these examples to see the potential of custom monitoring configurations in action.Custom Monitoring Configuration Example for Tanks:
Custom Monitoring Configuration Example for Battery Voltages:
Example Monitoring Output:
Feedback Wanted:
Your feedback is invaluable as we continue to refine and enhance this feature. Should you encounter any bugs or have suggestions, please don't hesitate to reach out.Thank you for being a part of this journey. Your participation and feedback are crucial to the success of this rollout!
Happy Monitoring!
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Thank you ! I’m playing with it, and I’m able to monitor some new data !
First feedback : in the selection of path, it seems to be sorted by plugin name. It may be difficult to find the path you need. For example, in my configuration, the tanks.* (N2k source) paths are shown before electrical.* (Venus plugin)
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@MacJL Looks like there is no data coming for your Blackwater, which is different than a 0% coming in. We just deployed a change to treat missing/null values as zero, so it should address the UI glitch. However you should ensure you do have readings for your blackwater tank.
On the latter point on ranges, they are set dynamically based on all the values in a given section. It does make it a bit more meaningful when you have multiple readings in a given section. There might be an option to customize it in the future but for now, we will leave it with the default dynamic ranges.
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Curious if i add these additional monitoring sources do they then become a part of my trip logs? This would be a complete game changer as I would have trip/log info on egt and coolant temps for reference.The capability to integrate additional monitoring directly into trip logs is here with Plugin 4.0!
This major update allows you to capture custom NMEA 2000 data—like depth, battery levels, fuel levels, engine hours and more—seamlessly within your trip logs.
Check out the full announcement: Plugin 4.0: A Game-Changer for Saillogger! -
Thank you for this new capabilities. I'll test them as soon as possible
But is there a way to add a SignalK path, that is not currently existing? For example, the engine temperature path is created only when it's running. So I can select it in custom monitor page, or add it manually...
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Hi @MacJL, that's an interesting case. Currently, there isn't a way to add it manually, but that shouldn't be necessary. If you check Saillogger about an hour after the engine starts running, the path should show up automatically. It will remain available even after the engine stops, as long as Signal K isn’t restarted.
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Hello,
Sure it will work. But as I generally configure the sailloger app remotely, I can't start the engine from my house !
And when I'm on board, I usually forget to set it ! And of course, I often reboot the SignalK device just after sailling, before setting this damn path to Sailloger...I will try to find a way to declare this path with a null value, just to set it in Sailloger. This could be a good workaround for my case. I'm pretty sure I can do it with Data Fiddler.
